Comments on: Yahoo, part 5… http://blog.wordtothewise.com/2008/03/yahoo-part-5/ Spam, delivery, email and more Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:33:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: SilentLamb http://blog.wordtothewise.com/2008/03/yahoo-part-5/#comment-2405 SilentLamb Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:45:43 +0000 http://blog.wordtothewise.com/index.php/2008/03/14/yahoo-part-5/#comment-2405 Blech! They're clueless. I've seen mail systems run by monkeys....that were better run. Blech! They’re clueless. I’ve seen mail systems run by monkeys….that were better run.

]]> By: Adam Bernstein http://blog.wordtothewise.com/2008/03/yahoo-part-5/#comment-2025 Adam Bernstein Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:32:33 +0000 http://blog.wordtothewise.com/index.php/2008/03/14/yahoo-part-5/#comment-2025 Well, damn, it figures we'd find out about the FBL beta only by seeing this announcement of it being closed down, and I sure hope to see it opened up again, as that feature has been extremely useful for us with Hotmail and AOL. In related news, I'm wondering if you have any insight into Yahoo's whitelisting policy for sending servers, or any ideas for who to plead with to change what seems like a completely absurd restriction. They've now rejected two different applications for two different listservers we administer, each of which has a dedicated IP address and one of which serves only one domain, as follows: "We cannot systematically exempt your mailings from our SpamGuard technology since the IP address of the server appears to be a shared domain mail host and have multiple clients sending email." We can't figure out what they're talking about, since this is a listserver hosting one domain at one IP address and that was made clear in the application, unless it's that they see From: lines in multiple domains on messages from this server. This is of course simply a function of hosting discussion groups on which the sender's address is preserved on distributed messages. Are they saying that no such discussion group listserver can be whitelisted, that it's only for mass-mailers sending newsletters From: a single domain? And if so, is that a deliberate policy, or an unintended consequence? Thanks much. Well, damn, it figures we’d find out about the FBL beta only by seeing this announcement of it being closed down, and I sure hope to see it opened up again, as that feature has been extremely useful for us with Hotmail and AOL.

In related news, I’m wondering if you have any insight into Yahoo’s whitelisting policy for sending servers, or any ideas for who to plead with to change what seems like a completely absurd restriction. They’ve now rejected two different applications for two different listservers we administer, each of which has a dedicated IP address and one of which serves only one domain, as follows:

“We cannot systematically exempt your mailings from our SpamGuard technology since the IP address of the server appears to be a shared domain mail host and have multiple clients sending email.”

We can’t figure out what they’re talking about, since this is a listserver hosting one domain at one IP address and that was made clear in the application, unless it’s that they see From: lines in multiple domains on messages from this server. This is of course simply a function of hosting discussion groups on which the sender’s address is preserved on distributed messages.

Are they saying that no such discussion group listserver can be whitelisted, that it’s only for mass-mailers sending newsletters From: a single domain? And if so, is that a deliberate policy, or an unintended consequence?

Thanks much.

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