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	<title>Comments on: Failed delivery of permission based email</title>
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	<description>Email, Delivery, Spam and more</description>
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		<title>By: Technology does not trump policy when it comes to delivery at Word to the Wise</title>
		<link>http://blog.wordtothewise.com/2009/08/failed-delivery-of-permission-based-email/comment-page-1/#comment-2484</link>
		<dc:creator>Technology does not trump policy when it comes to delivery at Word to the Wise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Failed Delivery of Permission Based Email [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fred Testard</title>
		<link>http://blog.wordtothewise.com/2009/08/failed-delivery-of-permission-based-email/comment-page-1/#comment-2483</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Testard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Thanks for the pieces of information above.
Just a quick comment though on the cost of sending :
It is free for spammers as they use zombie PCs... it&#039;s not their infrastructure and they surely don&#039;t work with ESPs ;-)
So, the cost of sending is indeed an interesting discussion the industry should have, but it doesn&#039;t have anything to do with spammers does it ?

Regards,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Thanks for the pieces of information above.<br />
Just a quick comment though on the cost of sending :<br />
It is free for spammers as they use zombie PCs&#8230; it&#8217;s not their infrastructure and they surely don&#8217;t work with ESPs <img src='http://blog.wordtothewise.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
So, the cost of sending is indeed an interesting discussion the industry should have, but it doesn&#8217;t have anything to do with spammers does it ?</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
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		<title>By: URL Shorteners and Blacklists &#124; MailChimp Email Marketing Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>URL Shorteners and Blacklists &#124; MailChimp Email Marketing Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is all new and fascinating to you, check out this article from Laura Atkins at Word To The Wise: Failed Delivery of Permission Based Email. She covers a few other seemingly innocent but oft-abused URLs that can get your messages [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is all new and fascinating to you, check out this article from Laura Atkins at Word To The Wise: Failed Delivery of Permission Based Email. She covers a few other seemingly innocent but oft-abused URLs that can get your messages [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If each legit email cost, say, 3 cents, would that make it unpalatable for spammers to send a few million speculative pieces of spam out there?&quot;

I once believed that (and kinda still do), but spammers are really good at getting stolen credit card info now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If each legit email cost, say, 3 cents, would that make it unpalatable for spammers to send a few million speculative pieces of spam out there?&#8221;</p>
<p>I once believed that (and kinda still do), but spammers are really good at getting stolen credit card info now.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Kirstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Kirstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, I don&#039;t think this will ever stop until email actually costs money per send, over and above internal costs. It&#039;s sad to think it would come to that, but it seems to me that the economics of email will always attract the spammer.

 We can&#039;t control the dimwits who click on spammy emails, so the only other parameter is the cost of sending. If each legit email cost, say, 3 cents, would that make it unpalatable for spammers to send a few million speculative pieces of spam out there?

I have to think that compared to what we legitimate marketers had traditionally spent on direct mail, this would still be a bargain and not destroy our ROI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t think this will ever stop until email actually costs money per send, over and above internal costs. It&#8217;s sad to think it would come to that, but it seems to me that the economics of email will always attract the spammer.</p>
<p> We can&#8217;t control the dimwits who click on spammy emails, so the only other parameter is the cost of sending. If each legit email cost, say, 3 cents, would that make it unpalatable for spammers to send a few million speculative pieces of spam out there?</p>
<p>I have to think that compared to what we legitimate marketers had traditionally spent on direct mail, this would still be a bargain and not destroy our ROI.</p>
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