Comments on: Suppressing email addresses: it's good for everyone http://blog.wordtothewise.com/2009/10/suppressing-email-addresses-its-good-for-everyone/ Email, Delivery, Spam and more Wed, 08 Feb 2012 05:06:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Huey http://blog.wordtothewise.com/2009/10/suppressing-email-addresses-its-good-for-everyone/comment-page-1/#comment-6050 Huey Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:59:17 +0000 http://blog.wordtothewise.com/?p=716#comment-6050 I disagree. Granted, it's WTTW's blog, but I think the deliverability industry has, by and large, failed to include the perspective of the insane appliance mover, and I think that can be an important diversion, like the coverup of the secret anti-terrorist gun that Gerald Ford accidentally killed Elvis with, or perhaps Man Tampons. I disagree. Granted, it’s WTTW’s blog, but I think the deliverability industry has, by and large, failed to include the perspective of the insane appliance mover, and I think that can be an important diversion, like the coverup of the secret anti-terrorist gun that Gerald Ford accidentally killed Elvis with, or perhaps Man Tampons.

]]> By: Mark Ferguson http://blog.wordtothewise.com/2009/10/suppressing-email-addresses-its-good-for-everyone/comment-page-1/#comment-6047 Mark Ferguson Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:29:13 +0000 http://blog.wordtothewise.com/?p=716#comment-6047 Aside from Huey being an idiot, whew.com should never be on any list so it is a great tool to cull spammers from a pool of affiliates. I have suggested that to a lot of companies that hire their email sending out to third parties. I have even offered to create a whew,com email address and redirect it to a specified email address to them. They could monitor their email address and term their spammers. Of course Huey is an idiot and believes his own press. Who ever said solicited email is spam? My personal view is that unless it is "unsolicited" it is not spam no matter the content or who it is from. Huey, get your facts straight before you open your mouth or type or you can point out anywhere where I ever said solicited email is spam. "Demanding everything might mean you get nothing" "Expect nothing, never be disappointed" "Intelligence is the ability to learn" "Reality is constant and is only altered by your perception" Aside from Huey being an idiot, whew.com should never be on any list so it is a great tool to cull spammers from a pool of affiliates. I have suggested that to a lot of companies that hire their email sending out to third parties. I have even offered to create a whew,com email address and redirect it to a specified email address to them. They could monitor their email address and term their spammers.

Of course Huey is an idiot and believes his own press. Who ever said solicited email is spam? My personal view is that unless it is “unsolicited” it is not spam no matter the content or who it is from.

Huey, get your facts straight before you open your mouth or type or you can point out anywhere where I ever said solicited email is spam.

“Demanding everything might mean you get nothing”
“Expect nothing, never be disappointed”
“Intelligence is the ability to learn”
“Reality is constant and is only altered by your perception”

]]> By: Huey http://blog.wordtothewise.com/2009/10/suppressing-email-addresses-its-good-for-everyone/comment-page-1/#comment-2789 Huey Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:12:49 +0000 http://blog.wordtothewise.com/?p=716#comment-2789 Yes. I agree 100% with everything you've said here. However, there is a caveat: suppose that you know, as a professional, that there is a domain somewhere that you know, with the knowledge borne of knowing, that you most assuredly don't want your customers sending any mail to whatsoever. Hypothetically, let's suppose that this domain is called "whew.com", or perhaps "rhyolite.com". Now, being a competent email marketer, you block your sending systems from sending amy messages whatsoever to those domains, and add them to your global flag lists such that any sender who uploads email addresses that include those domains are automagically pointed out to your operations staff, AS WELL as automagically precluding you from mailing to them. What happens next is a potential minor PR disaster, as the frothing nutbar who owns that domain -- that domain that you already know you have no earthly business sending any marketing mail to whatsoever -- complains publicly and loudly that you are 'listwashing' and 'operating a global suppression list' in order to prevent even the appearance of any impropriety, never mind that doing so is a) the law, b) a good idea even if in weren't the law, and c) really the domain owner's damn fault for being such an obstinate crank in the first place. The irony here is that I've seen the obstinate cranks both complain about commercial email even when it is solicited AND insist that allowing a spam to go through was a far more heinous transgression than allowing a non-spam to be filtered, and yet, when that very same crank signs up for email notifications from his bank, and can't get them, he's surprised by this? Yes. I agree 100% with everything you’ve said here.

However, there is a caveat: suppose that you know, as a professional, that there is a domain somewhere that you know, with the knowledge borne of knowing, that you most assuredly don’t want your customers sending any mail to whatsoever. Hypothetically, let’s suppose that this domain is called “whew.com”, or perhaps “rhyolite.com”. Now, being a competent email marketer, you block your sending systems from sending amy messages whatsoever to those domains, and add them to your global flag lists such that any sender who uploads email addresses that include those domains are automagically pointed out to your operations staff, AS WELL as automagically precluding you from mailing to them.

What happens next is a potential minor PR disaster, as the frothing nutbar who owns that domain — that domain that you already know you have no earthly business sending any marketing mail to whatsoever — complains publicly and loudly that you are ‘listwashing’ and ‘operating a global suppression list’ in order to prevent even the appearance of any impropriety, never mind that doing so is a) the law, b) a good idea even if in weren’t the law, and c) really the domain owner’s damn fault for being such an obstinate crank in the first place.

The irony here is that I’ve seen the obstinate cranks both complain about commercial email even when it is solicited AND insist that allowing a spam to go through was a far more heinous transgression than allowing a non-spam to be filtered, and yet, when that very same crank signs up for email notifications from his bank, and can’t get them, he’s surprised by this?

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