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		<title>Delivery resources</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m working on a few projects designed to help provide mentoring for other delivery people and to bridge the communication gap between the various groups active in email. One of those projects is collecting, linking to, and publishing more delivery resources. Some will be linked to directly from the blog, others will be linked to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m working on a few projects designed to help provide mentoring for  other delivery people and to bridge the communication gap between the  various groups active in email. One of those projects is collecting,  linking to, and publishing more delivery resources. Some will be linked  to directly from the blog, others will be linked to from the <a href="http://wiki.wordtothewise.com/">wiki</a>. While I&#8217;m reasonably  familiar with what&#8217;s out there, it is impossible for me to know about  all the useful resources available. So I ask you readers:</p>
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<li>What  are your favorite delivery resources?</li>
<li>What are your most used  delivery resources?</li>
<li>What types of things would you like to  be available but haven&#8217;t found?</li>
<li>What resources do you make  available and would like included?</li>
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<p>Speaking of the wiki, we  had an invasion by a bunch of botnets putting up garbage spam links. We  tried a few things to stop it, but the only thing that worked was  prohibiting anonymous editing. I am still looking at other measures (and  if anyone out there has dealt with this before and has some ideas, I&#8217;m  all ears) but for right now you have to register and be confirmed before  you can edit anything. Blame the spammers (I do).</p>
<p>Please list  your resources or helpful links in the comments and I&#8217;ll pull them  together and put them up for everyone to share.</p>
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		<title>State of the Industry</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>laura</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over the last few weeks I&#8217;ve had a series of posts on the blog from various authors who are active in the email space. I posted A very young industry commenting on the lack of experience among email marketers. I think that some of the conflict between ISPs and ESPs and receivers and marketers can [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the last few weeks I&#8217;ve had a series of posts on the blog from various authors who are active in the email space.</p>
<p>I posted <a href="http://blog.wordtothewise.com/2010/03/a-very-young-industry/">A very young industry</a> commenting on the lack of experience among email marketers. I think that some of the <a href="http://blog.wordtothewise.com/2009/12/tribes/">conflict</a> between ISPs and ESPs and receivers and marketers can be traced back to this lack of longevity and experience. Often there is only a single delivery expert at a company. These people often have delivery responsibilities dropped on them without any real training or warning. They have to rely on outside resources to figure out how to do their job and often that means leaning on ISPs for training.</p>
<p>JD Falk described how many at ISPs feel about this in his post <a href="http://blog.wordtothewise.com/2010/03/with-great-wisdom/">With great wisdom&#8230;</a></p>
<blockquote><p>we’re also tired with teaching the same thing to people with the same title, and feeling like the message never gets through. Part of what we’re saying is “It’s your industry, you’ve learned this stuff, now you teach ‘em.”</p></blockquote>
<p>His comments are similar to comments I&#8217;ve heard from many people behind the spamfilters at ISPs and spam filtering companies. Some ESPs go through delivery folks almost yearly. Those new delivery folks then reach out to the ISPs and ask the same question their predecessor asked a year ago which, in turn, was the same question that their predecessor asked the year before that. Really, the ISPs don&#8217;t like repeating themselves like this. I keep telling them they should just cut and paste their previous answers until the questions change.</p>
<p>Finally, Phil Schott posted <a href="http://blog.wordtothewise.com/2010/03/you-must-be-present-to-win/">You must be present to win</a> pointing out the lack of resources.</p>
<blockquote><p>There’s no books on this stuff and you can’t go to school to get your BA in deliverability. All we’ve got is each other.</p></blockquote>
<p>While he&#8217;s right and there are no books or school lessons, I&#8217;m not quite sure how useful they would be. Things in the email space change very fast and what was true a few months ago may not be true now. However, there are some resources for people who want to learn about delivery. I have been working on the <a href="http://wiki.wordtothewise.com/">delivery wiki</a> as a place to categorize and clearly present information to people. MAAWG holds training sessions for senders at every conference (and they&#8217;re always looking for suggestions for what kind of training sessions people want). There are other conferences and meetings that offer delivery help.</p>
<p>I think there are other options as well. But the real solution is more involvement and more information sharing between delivery professionals. The knowledge is there and we can share it among ourselves. We don&#8217;t need to rely on the overworked and underpaid staff at the ISPs to teach the newbies how to do their jobs.</p>
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		<title>You must be present to win</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>laura</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guest post by Phil Schott I often have the pleasure of putting my four year-old son to bed at night and I&#8217;m usually exhausted afterward. It&#8217;s a never-ending string of questions and admonishments that goes something like this, &#8220;Daddy, is it a stay-at-home day tomorrow? &#8220;No, Joe, tomorrow is a go-to-school day, it&#8217;s Tuesday. Joe, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Guest post by Phil Schott</em></p>
<p>I often have the pleasure of putting my four year-old son to bed at night and I&#8217;m usually exhausted afterward.  It&#8217;s a never-ending string of questions and admonishments that goes something like this,</p>
<p>&#8220;Daddy, is it a stay-at-home day tomorrow?</p>
<p>&#8220;No, Joe, tomorrow is a go-to-school day, it&#8217;s Tuesday.  Joe, stop talking and go to sleep and please stop picking your nose.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Daddy, how long until the Easter bunny comes?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;A few weeks.  Now, go to sleep and stop picking your nose, Josef.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Dude, what did I say about picking your nose?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Sorry daddy, I can&#8217;t help it.  It&#8217;s my job.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Daddy, When&#8217;s it going to be my birthday?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Joe, you&#8217;re not going to live to see your birthday if you don&#8217;t stop picking your nose and go to sleep.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lather, rinse, repeat for about 10-30 minutes every night.  Same questions, same answers, always picking his nose.</p>
<p>In retrospect it seems funny and maybe sweet, but it never does at the time and the thought of doing it all over again tomorrow night makes me want to run out screaming.</p>
<p>However, I realize that if not me, who?  Who&#8217;s going to tell Joe to stop picking his nose?  Who&#8217;s going to answer his questions?  I have to.  It&#8217;s my job.  If I want to be his dad, that&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve got to do.  If not, then I don&#8217;t get to be his dad, I don&#8217;t get to be part of his life, and I don&#8217;t get to be part of my family.</p>
<p>There are folks in our industry just like Joe and me&#8211;those who never seem to get it, those who ask questions over and over, and those who tire of answering the same questions.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to thank those who answer those questions over and over.  Folks like <a href="http://www.spamresource.com/">Al Iverson</a>, <a href="http://boxofmeat.net/">JD Falk</a>, <a href="http://www.spamsuite.com/">Mickey Chandler</a>, <a href="http://denofdeliverability.com/">Greg Kraios</a>, Ken Magill, <a href="http://blog.wordtothewise.com/">Laura Atkins</a>, <a href="http://blog.wordtothewise.com/">Steve Atkins</a>, <a href="http://blog.exacttarget.com/blog/empty-your-cup">Karen Balle</a>, <a href="http://www.annaliviaford.com/">Annalivia Ford</a>, and many others who deserve to be on this list.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve only been in deliverability for a few years and I&#8217;d be nowhere if these folks hadn&#8217;t answered my dumb questions, posted their thoughts, shared their knowledge, and told me to stop picking my nose on occasion.</p>
<p>It pains me though to read from time to time the ranting of those in our industry who want to decry the dumb marketer, give up, and take their ball home.  It&#8217;s a shame, but that&#8217;s their right and their decision.  However, they then don&#8217;t get to be part of the community.  They lose the effectiveness to tell a dumb marketer to stop picking his nose.  They become a washed-up, has been, curmudgeon with no voice. Like with my four year-old son, if I want to be a part of the deliverability community I&#8217;ve got to stick it out and deal with it. You have to be present to win.</p>
<p>In her post, <a href="http://blog.wordtothewise.com/2010/03/a-very-young-industry/">A very young industry</a>, Laura Atkins of Word to the Wise quotes <a href="http://blog.exacttarget.com/">ExactTarget&#8217;s</a> Joel Book as stating that less than 20% of those in email marketing have more than two years experience.  Yes, it&#8217;s an industry full of four year-olds.  If you&#8217;re one of those in the know are you going to bemoan this fact that&#8217;s beyond your control or are you going to work to make the community you&#8217;ve helped build a better place?  You absolutely can choose to move on.  We will miss you and I wish you the best of luck.  But either keep helping out as you&#8217;ve expertly done or get out of the way.  Don&#8217;t take cheap shots at those trying to do the right thing and trying to do some good work.</p>
<p>For those of you tired of answering the same inane questions you&#8217;re fooling yourself if you think the folks who really need to hear your message are reading.  They&#8217;re not.  And they&#8217;re going to keep on asking their inane questions until somebody helps them out.  I choose to help them out.  I choose to be part of the community.  I choose to be present.</p>
<p>A big part of the issue is how daunting it can be to ask for help without the risk of appearing the fool.  There are far too many folks in this business of deliverability who are more interested in proving how smart they are and selectively sharing knowledge than they are in helping raise the overall level of consciousness and enlightenment.</p>
<p>If you want the idiots and fools to go away then help them become something more.  Help them like no one helped you when you started out.  With much effort, time, and frustration, I could pick through five years of your blog posts to find the one bit of information I need, or you could give me the URL to the post that will reveal all.  I&#8217;m not asking you to spoon feed me, I&#8217;m just asking for a little help.  There&#8217;s no books on this stuff and you can&#8217;t go to school to get your BA in deliverability.  All we&#8217;ve got is each other.</p>
<p><em>Phil Schott has been handling delivery and compliance for a major ESP for the last 3 and a half years.</em></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 23:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>laura</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guest Post by JD Falk There was certainly some surprise in the room when I pointed out (yep, it was me) that Laura has been around since before there were ESPs. Part of it, I&#8217;m sure, was because Laura&#8217;s not particularly ancient &#8212; and part was because it&#8217;s a shock to realize that people sent [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Guest Post by JD Falk</em></p>
<p>There was certainly some surprise in the room when I pointed out (yep, it was me) that Laura has been around since before there were ESPs.  Part of it, I&#8217;m sure, was because Laura&#8217;s not particularly ancient &#8212; and part was because it&#8217;s a shock to realize that people sent and received email and everything was just fine long before the segment of the industry that you work in had even been imagined.</p>
<p>Since this was at MAAWG, there were quite a few people in the room who were involved before there were ESPs (I asked for a show of hands) &#8212; and it was interesting to see how many of them work for ESPs now.  Commenting on Laura&#8217;s article <a href="http://blog.wordtothewise.com/2010/03/a-very-young-industry/">&#8220;A very young industry,&#8221;</a> Kent McGovern mentioned three &#8212; including Anne Mitchell, who made up the word &#8220;deliverability&#8221; not long after stepping down as the head lawyer for the first shared blacklist of email-sending IP addresses.</p>
<p>Just think about that.  She was the head <em>lawyer</em> for the MAPS RBL before there was such a thing as deliverability.  (I worked with her there; so did Laura.)</p>
<p>There are a lot of us who&#8217;ve been around that long, and most don&#8217;t work in the deliverability/marketing side of the industry.  Nearly all of us have become cynical over the years; some were cynical to begin with.  A few, sadly, have burned out entirely from the frustration of having the same arguments, same discussions, over and over and over.</p>
<p>I think some of the recent refrain calling for ESPs to pressure each other into better practices comes in part from that same frustration.  Yes, bad practices are bad, but we&#8217;re also tired with teaching the same thing to people with the same title, and feeling like the message never gets through.  Part of what we&#8217;re saying is &#8220;It&#8217;s your industry, you&#8217;ve learned this stuff, now <em>you</em> teach &#8216;em.&#8221;</p>
<p>And when you do, it <em>does</em> work &#8212; far more often than when we say it, because you speak the same language.  There&#8217;s now a generation (for lack of a better term) of ESP &amp; deliverability staff who <em>weren&#8217;t</em> around before there were ESPs, maybe not even before CAN-SPAM, but have learned many of the same things and undergone similar transformation.  Who&#8217;d have thought that Jaren Angerbauer &#8212; quite possibly the nicest guy in the industry &#8212; would ever start sighing at those young whippersnappers like a cynical old anti-spammer?  And Jaren&#8217;s not only teaching deliverabilitators; he&#8217;s also teaching college students, ensuring that they&#8217;ll know far more when they enter the work force than you or he did.</p>
<p>We old-timers once struggled with the idea that we must reach out &#8212; even to people we disagree with &#8212; and teach what we knew, learning along the way to put it into terms that marketers understand.  It&#8217;s so much simpler to add to a blacklist and throw away they key, declaring &#8220;not my problem anymore.&#8221;  But we did start teaching, and look how far we&#8217;ve come; we&#8217;re still doing it, and look how much further there is to go.</p>
<p>Now it&#8217;s time for the next generation to do the same.  Stop looking to us, or to the ISPs, to solve the problems of your industry for you; we&#8217;re busy dealing with spam, as we should&#8217;ve been doing all along.  Your colleagues&#8217; cluelessness is exactly as impermanent as your own was, and can be overcome in the same ways.  Whether you have fifteen or ten or five or merely two years of experience, you&#8217;ve found your way to this blog and read down to this line, and attained some measure of wisdom, and you can ease the passage for others.</p>
<p>When someone at a marketing conference says something that you know isn&#8217;t true, that you know will result in poor deliverability and industry ire, call them on it.  Engage them in a dialogue.  Teach, explain, cajole, push &#8212; because with great wisdom comes great responsibility.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s your turn.</p>
<p><em>J.D. Falk is Director of Product Strategy for Receiver Products at <a href="http://www.returnpath.net/">Return Path</a>, which is not an ESP.</em></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 02:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week I saw a tweet that quoted Joel Book, Director of eMarketing Education at Exacttarget as saying less than 20% of ppl in #emailmarketing have more than 2 yrs experience I have this feeling that some of the industry wide issues with conflicts between &#8220;frat boys&#8221; and &#8220;utilitarians&#8221; is partly due to the lack [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week I saw a <a href="http://twitter.com/jacaldwell/statuses/9539026581">tweet</a> that quoted <a href="http://blog.exacttarget.com/blog/joel-book">Joel Book, Director of eMarketing Education at Exacttarget</a> as saying</p>
<blockquote><p>less than 20% of ppl in #emailmarketing have more than 2 yrs experience</p></blockquote>
<p>I have this feeling that some of the industry wide issues with conflicts between <a href="http://blog.wordtothewise.com/2009/12/tribes/">&#8220;frat boys&#8221; and &#8220;utilitarians&#8221;</a> is partly due to the lack of experience on the email marketing side. Contrast that with the ISP side, where many people have 10 or 20 years experience with email.</p>
<p>If we take for a fact that Joel is correct and 80% of email marketers have less than 2 years of experience, how does that affect the way email marketers approach email and delivery issues? More importantly, how does this affect deliverability? Does it affect the perception of email marketing and email marketers by the ISPs and spam blocking companies?</p>
<p>What does it mean for the state of the industry that so few people on one side of the equation have long term experience in email marketing and so many people on the other side of the equation have long term experience with email (and marketing)?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about this for a while, triggered by one of the session moderators at MAAWG introducing me as &#8220;someone who has been in the industry since before there were ESPs.&#8221; Yes, I&#8217;ve been around a long time, and his comment is accurate, if a bit disturbing.</p>
<p>Being around for as long as I have doesn&#8217;t just mean I have experience dealing with different problems, but also provides a deep understanding of where we are now and how we got here. The history of delivery, spam fighting and email marketing are all intertwined but never documented. Knowing that history is vital for mapping the future.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help but think that the lack of experience of the majority of the people in this industry is hindering delivery and effective email marketing. There are so few of us who could be considered old hands, is that hindering the industry as a whole?</p>
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		<title>Legitimate email marketers need to take a stand</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was reading an article on Virus Rants and the opening paragraph really stood out. you wouldn&#8217;t think this needs to be said, but apparently it does &#8211; being a whitehat means taking sides. more than that, it means taking the side aligned (more or less) with the general public&#8217;s interests &#8211; doing things for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reading an article on <a href="http://anti-virus-rants.blogspot.com/2009/11/being-whitehat-means-taking-sides.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Anti-virusRants+%28anti-virus+rants%29">Virus Rants</a> and the opening paragraph really stood out.</p>
<blockquote><p>you wouldn&#8217;t think this needs to be said, but apparently it does &#8211; being a whitehat means taking sides. more than that, it means taking the side aligned (more or less) with the general public&#8217;s interests &#8211; doing things for their direct or indirect benefit.</p></blockquote>
<p>In the ISP world most sentences that start with &#8220;I&#8217;m a legitimate email marketer&#8221; end with a description of why the legitimate email marketer should be allowed to send mail that recipients may not want. This type of statement tends to annoy (or worse) the ISP representatives that are listening to why they should be allowing mail from this legitimate sender through.</p>
<p>Being a legitimate email marketer means taking sides and taking the side aligned with the general public&#8217;s interest. It does not mean that you get a free pass against blocking and filtering at ISPs, it means that you adhere to a higher standard. It means doing the right things, rejecting the bad things and standing up against those who adopt poor practices.</p>
<p>HT: <a href="http://boxofmeat.net/post/257351021/anti-virus-rants-being-a-whitehat-means-taking-sides">Box of Meat</a></p>
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